I had the pleasure (!) of debating alongside Anne Widdecombe (and Piers Morgan) on Good Morning Britain this week. Pretty tough, where PM is concerned, to get a word in edgeways - and open minds - but here is the clip nonetheless.
Julian of Norwich, oh how I wish I’d used your quote (“as truly as God is our father, so truly is God our mother”) from way back in the 14th Century; would’ve put a serious spoke in the wheel of Anne Widdecombe’s, ‘its all newfangled, politically correct tripe’ argument. Ariane Grande’s lyrics could’ve been useful too.
Watch more here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1_vU7Cty9c